March 17, 2008

• Here is Liam's brilliant response to what I should say next time (assuming there is a next time) the topic comes up with Dori.

  "Eugh.  First of all, I lost all respect for people who are too lazy to
  type "you" and type "u" instead.  "According to the Bible u are going
  to Hell."

  And according to the dictionary you have a lot of work ahead of you.

  Anyway,
  in terms of dealing with something like this, there are several ways to
  go about it.  The problem is as of late I have really gotten into the
  Satanist philosophy so I hold religion in such little respect that it's
  hard to take anything they say seriously.

  First of all, you can challenge back with other things the Bible says are "bad."

  Most people like to quote these in terms of being against gays:
  
  

  "You shall not lie
  with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination."
  (Leviticus 18:22)

  "If a man lies with
  a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an
  abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their
  blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13)

  Now check these out:

  
  

  "For
  everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be
  put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood
  shall be upon him." (Leviticus 20:9)

  "If a
  man lies with a woman during her sickness and uncovers her nakedness,
  he has discovered her flow, and she has uncovered the flow of
  her blood. Both of them shall be cut off from her people."
  (Leviticus
  20:18)

  "Do not
  cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges
  of your beard." (Leviticus 19:27)

  "...do
  not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear material
  woven of two kinds of material." (Leviticus 19:19)

  "But all in the seas or
  in the rivers that do not have fins and scales, all that move
  in the water or any living thing which is in the water, they
  are an abomination to you." (Leviticus 11:10)

  So
  basically Christians are selectively choosing gay as being bad and
  these other things are not important enough to be mentioned.  Unless
  your friend is going to give up eating shrimp and getting haircuts,
  tell her to lay off.

  Then, there's the politics.  Is your friend
  also against abortion?  If she is, ask her this, would she rather have
  the babies be aborted or would she rather have them be adopted by a gay
  couple?  One of the problem with conservatives is that they want
  everything, not realizing they can't have their cake and eat it too. 
  Either let the girls get their abortions or let the kids have a good
  home.  Otherwise the child will most likely not receive the proper home
  it deserves.  See what I'm saying?

  What are the options for the
  girl other than aborting?  Raising it herself is the first, but if
  she's considering the abortion, there are several reasons why: the
  child is not wanted, she does not have enough finances to care for the
  child, she knows she cannot properly care for the child, she wants her
  own life and therefore will not properly care for the child.  This is a
  small list of what I am sure is actually much longer.  So, if she
  chooses to give birth but then give it up for adoption, she actually
  has to give it up for adoption.  Do you know how many kids are in homes
  without parents in the U.S. alone, let alone the rest of the world? 
  And are you aware of how many gay couples would love to adopt these
  kids and give them a loving home?  A lot, Mike.  There are a lot.  Pose
  the question and make her choose.  And if she happens to be fine with
  abortion, ask her why she hasn't adopted.  I love hearing the argument
  "There are plenty of straight couples looking to adopt!"  Bullshit.

  Then there are some fantastic statistics about gays being able to raise
  children better than straight couples.  I would really have to look for
  these for you because I haven't needed to show them to anyone in a
  while, but there was a study of test scores between kids raised by gays
  parents and kids raised by heterosexuals and almost always the gay
  couples' kids got better test scores.  It's pretty sweet.  But, as your
  friend only seems to be arguing about religion, this really has nothing
  to do with the argument.  I just think it's interesting.

  If
  gay marriage comes up, and if you agree with my views on gay marriage,
  throw that at her.  Tell her that a) you don't want a marriage because
  you don't need to be recognized by the Church and b) all heterosexual
  marriages should have nothing to do with the government.  If straights
  want what are now considered "marriage rights" such as visiting your
  partner when they're in the hospital, etc., they should get a civil
  union through the State and get all of the benefits through that.  If I
  remember the 8th grade correctly we have a separation of church and
  state in this country, no?

  If this isn't enough, let me know.  I'm full of this shit.

  Liam"

  Like I told him, we gays are under constant attack from the crazy hardcore Christians. We need to have a response to anything they can throw at us. I've always found it more than a little curious that they are so preoccupied with gays and focus such little attention on pre-marital sex, gambling and other things. Not that there is wrong with any of that, in fact I'm all for it, but for whatever reason they go after gays. And I realize I'm preaching to the choir on all of this, as for the most part you all agree with me. But common sense and science prove that being gay is not a choice. You can not control who you are attracted to. That's the common sense part. And when you look at how much more fem gay guys are than straight guys, well that's just science.

  As for me, I first realized I was gay when I was 11. Shit even before that when I was in 5th grade, I remember going to my neighbor Mistey's birthday party and being strangely enthralled by this boy a couple of years older than me. I think he might have been my first boy crush. Not only did I think he was the coolest thing ever, but I left the party wanting to see more of him, even though I pretty much didn't really see him again. Then as I got into middle school and hit puberty,  I noticed that the other boys in school were, well, for lack of a better term, turning me on. I didn't know why. All I know is that I couldn't control it and the highlight of my day was starting to be shower time in gym class. I wanted to like girls, in fact, I spent the better part of 10 years hoping and praying that I would not be gay anymore and that I would be attracted to girls. Its not that I had any problem with gays. I had full support for them in every manner, I strongly felt that gays should have every right straights had. I never discriminated against gays to hide my own sexuality. I never pretended to be straight, I never faked attraction in girls or dated girls to just to keep my cover. I still believe firmly that if somebody assumes I'm straight, well, that is their own fault. But, I went everyday not wanting to be what I was, but knowing that there was no way for me to change. It took a long time for me to overcome those feelings and accept what and who I am.

  So when those fuckers say its a choice, they are ignorantly clueless to sexuality. I've always believed that those people who claim to be "cured" of homosexuality are just fooling everybody. Deep down they know they are still gay and they still have feelings for people of the same sex. Its just that religion makes them feel so guilty and evil, that they suppress those feelings. And if they don't, they are excluded and chastised for something out of their control. See, this is one of the main reasons why I LOATHE religion with every fiber of my being. Sure, they pretend to preach love and accept everybody, but so often they fail to live up to their promise. Instead they divide, hate and create bigotry to those who are different, whether it be gays, blacks, or people of other faiths. So that is where my distrust and hatred of it starts.

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